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Poster: Agricola Date: Sep 27, 2004 1:29pm
Forum: etree Subject: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

There have been a few complaints about how many GD concerts are given 5 stars. Has anybody ever heard a bad Grateful Dead concert? I haven't. There have been some posts about the best concerts. I'd like to see a few nominations for the worst. I'd like to know what a boad one sounds like.

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Poster: barrywhiterules Date: Sep 28, 2004 12:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

Over a 30-year career, there are bound to be quite a few clunkers.

The show most often called "the worst GD show ever" is 8-24-85, Boreal Ridge.
It's pretty bad.

For my money, the worst GD shows are from the last few years, 1993-95.
I don't know why you'd want to hear bad GD when there's so much good GD ... but if you really want to hear a tired, sloppy, fading band with no juice in the tank, surf the shows from 1995.
IMHO, Boreal Ridge is much better than 1995, because at least they were *trying* at Boreal Ridge.

One way to find bad GD is to have the Archive sort the reviews by rating. Then, just jump to all the one-star shows.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 31, 2008 8:17am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

It is all relative. I've never heard a Grateful Dead show that I couldn't find something enjoyable in. I maintain that a "bad" Grateful Dead show is still better than 95% of the so-called music being produced today.

I really enjoy two of the shows most panned by "Deadheads"..8/16/69 and 7/9/95. Maybe it is the "historical significance that influences my listening.

I was unaware of the 8-25-85 show's reputation, but it is streaming as I type and I Do Not hear anything terrible yet.

Give me a "bad" Grateful Dead show over the "best(??)" Clay Aiken show ever performed ;)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 31, 2008 8:50am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

I truly believe--and I say this as a DeadHead who loves this band more than any that ever did or will exist--who revelled in going to shows and continues to listen to them ALL the time--that there are numerous of shows...if one is TRULY objective about it, that flat out stink, especially in those last horrible days of 1995.

Jerry's vocals are like frog croaks. Even with the prompter he couldnt get the words right...The band is disjointed and often sounds like everyone is playing something different at the same time, and the vibe is weak.

I would echo this for certain shows in 1985 before jerry slipped into his coma (and really, doesn't that make sense?)...also, in 1986...I don't have time for specific examples right now....but choose some shows from those years I mentioned and listen objectively...then tell me they didn't play SOME horrible shows.

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Poster: Folkhippy Date: Mar 11, 2013 1:16pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

For those of you who have never been introduced to 04-22-1986, hold on to your hats. While the 08-24-1985 show is pretty bad, and we all know the deal when it comes to Fall '94 and 1995, I would put my money on 04-22-86 as being the worst Dead show any day.

Usually, when people talk about "bad" Dead shows, they are specifically talking about "bad" Jerry. This is not really the case on this night, even though he was just weeks away from his near-death coma. Brent is surprisingly at fault here.

Mr. Mydland apparently decided to show up onstage totally and utterly trashed for this performance. From the sound of his slurred vocals and random banging on the keys, I suspect a mixture of booze and H. Just listen to China>Rider, Bird Song, or (most ironically) Brokedown Palace. "Mmmmmm in mmmy tiiiiimmmmmme, in my timmmmmme, I will wroll, wroll, wroll." Brent was always killer at the keys, but his level of impairment was just too high. He randomly plays up clashing scales during the songs and messes around with some interesting synth effects during Bird Song. The final, vocals-only verse of I Know You Rider is a real treat. I guarantee Bobby or Phil cursed him out after this show, which has gained the moniker "Brent's Freakout."

http://archive.org/details/gd1986-04-22.sbd-pcm.miller.34768.flac16

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Poster: bonk Date: Sep 28, 2004 12:41am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

mmmmm.1995!The bacd sounds fine.......but listen to Garcia...board.Hes board.Yes,there are a few highlights in 95,but for the most part,the year was not very musical(for GD standards anyway).81 was an"off" year.I would have to say one of the worst concerts i have heard was the Feb 87' run of Lugna Seca!Just awful!Also,even though 78 was a killer year,Some of the July and August runs were a bit run down.I guess "too much of everything IS just enough"Its all personal taste.
Part of the beauty of the Dead is that they were not always tight.They let it all hang out!Wore their hearts on their sleeves!Real rare in our world of glitz and glamor!

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Poster: GratefulDad Date: Sep 28, 2004 3:29pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

5-16-69 is at least worthy mention for this topic.

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12884

FWIW, it does have a two star rating.

There are are two sources.
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=12885




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Poster: Seaknight8 Date: Oct 1, 2004 3:37am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

8-16-69 (Woodstock) is pretty awful, too.

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Poster: ChinaDog Date: Oct 1, 2004 10:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Worst of the Grateful Dead

IMO woodstock and boreal ridge arent anywhere close to being as bad as the hype about them

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